Should I even bother trying to get into flight school with the military?
Ujyathica
I wear contacts D = -1.50
Answer
Hope this helps
Air Force
To enter flight training, a candidate must pass a Flight Class I Flying Physical. To become a pilot, that means the candidates vision can be no worse than 20/70 (correctable with glasses to 20/20) in each eye. To enter Navigator Training, the candidate can have vision no worse than 20/200 in each eye (also must be correctable to 20/20).
After flight school, the standards relax a little. Pilots and Navigators who have already graduated flight training, can remain fliers as long as their vision doesn't deteriorate beyond 20/400 in each eye (correctable to 20/20).
Normal depth perception and color vision is required.
Effective May 21, 2007, applicants who have had LASIK eye surgery are no longer automatically disqualified from flight training. See related article.
Navy and Marine Corps
The Navy and the Marine Corps use the same standards (The Marines do not have their own medical department. They use the Navy for all medical procedures and standards). Navy Pilots must pass a Class I Flying Physical. To become a pilot in the Navy or Marine Corps, an applicant's uncorrected vision can be no worse than 20/40 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. Once flight training begins, vision can deteriorate to no worse than 20/100 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. After flight training graduation, if the eyesite deteriorates worse than 20/200 (must be correctable to 20/20), the pilot will require a waiver for carrier operations. If the vision deteriorates past 20/400 (correctable to 20/20), the pilot is restricted to aircraft with dual controls (ie, aircraft with co-pilots).
For Navigators (called "NFOs" or "Navy Flight Officers"), there is no vision requirement to enter flight training. However, the Navigator's vision must be correctable to 20/20 and there are limits on refraction. Refraction must be less than or equal to plus or minus 8.00 sphere in any meridian and less than or equal to minus 3.00 cylinder. No more than 3.50 anisometropia. After flight training, to continue on flight status there is no limit on refraction for NFOs. No waivers are authorized for NFO applicants who exceed these refraction limits.
Normal color vision is required for both NFOs and pilots. Normal depth perception is required for pilots and pilot applicants.
The Navy allows laser eye survery, both for current pilots and NFOs, and for pilot/NFO applicants, if they apply for, and are accepted to participate in the Navy's on-going study about laser eye surgery for aviators.
Army (Rotary Wing)
The Army has very few fixed-wing aircraft. The vast majority of Army pilots are helicopter pilots. Army Aviators must pass a Flight Class I Flying Physical. To enter Army Helicopter Flight Training, as either a commissioned officer or warrant officer, the applicant can have vision no worse than 20/50 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. After flight training, pilots can remain on flight status as long as their vision does not deteriorate beyond 20/400 (correctable to 20/20).
Normal depth perception and normal color vision is required.
Like the other branches, it is possible to apply for Army Flight Training and/or remain on flying status with laser eye surgery, if one is accepted into the Army's Aviator Laser Eye Surgery Study Program.
Hope this helps
Air Force
To enter flight training, a candidate must pass a Flight Class I Flying Physical. To become a pilot, that means the candidates vision can be no worse than 20/70 (correctable with glasses to 20/20) in each eye. To enter Navigator Training, the candidate can have vision no worse than 20/200 in each eye (also must be correctable to 20/20).
After flight school, the standards relax a little. Pilots and Navigators who have already graduated flight training, can remain fliers as long as their vision doesn't deteriorate beyond 20/400 in each eye (correctable to 20/20).
Normal depth perception and color vision is required.
Effective May 21, 2007, applicants who have had LASIK eye surgery are no longer automatically disqualified from flight training. See related article.
Navy and Marine Corps
The Navy and the Marine Corps use the same standards (The Marines do not have their own medical department. They use the Navy for all medical procedures and standards). Navy Pilots must pass a Class I Flying Physical. To become a pilot in the Navy or Marine Corps, an applicant's uncorrected vision can be no worse than 20/40 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. Once flight training begins, vision can deteriorate to no worse than 20/100 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. After flight training graduation, if the eyesite deteriorates worse than 20/200 (must be correctable to 20/20), the pilot will require a waiver for carrier operations. If the vision deteriorates past 20/400 (correctable to 20/20), the pilot is restricted to aircraft with dual controls (ie, aircraft with co-pilots).
For Navigators (called "NFOs" or "Navy Flight Officers"), there is no vision requirement to enter flight training. However, the Navigator's vision must be correctable to 20/20 and there are limits on refraction. Refraction must be less than or equal to plus or minus 8.00 sphere in any meridian and less than or equal to minus 3.00 cylinder. No more than 3.50 anisometropia. After flight training, to continue on flight status there is no limit on refraction for NFOs. No waivers are authorized for NFO applicants who exceed these refraction limits.
Normal color vision is required for both NFOs and pilots. Normal depth perception is required for pilots and pilot applicants.
The Navy allows laser eye survery, both for current pilots and NFOs, and for pilot/NFO applicants, if they apply for, and are accepted to participate in the Navy's on-going study about laser eye surgery for aviators.
Army (Rotary Wing)
The Army has very few fixed-wing aircraft. The vast majority of Army pilots are helicopter pilots. Army Aviators must pass a Flight Class I Flying Physical. To enter Army Helicopter Flight Training, as either a commissioned officer or warrant officer, the applicant can have vision no worse than 20/50 (correctable to 20/20) in each eye. After flight training, pilots can remain on flight status as long as their vision does not deteriorate beyond 20/400 (correctable to 20/20).
Normal depth perception and normal color vision is required.
Like the other branches, it is possible to apply for Army Flight Training and/or remain on flying status with laser eye surgery, if one is accepted into the Army's Aviator Laser Eye Surgery Study Program.
Do i have a bad vision for my eyes?
Greenbuggy
i saw my Optometrist yesterday and he said that the degree for both of my eyes were 4.50. I am 19 and in my 2nd year of college. He said that 4.50 is very bad. I have cousins and friends who are only 11 and their degree are already 5.0. So i was wondering is 4.50 for my age is ok or bad.
Answer
'If you are nearsighted (so your prescription is a -4.50 D), you are kind of right in the middle.'
Vitale S, Sperduto RD, Ferris FL 3rd. (2009) Increased prevalence of myopia in the United States between 1971-1972 and 1999-2004. Arch Ophthalmol. 2009 Dec;127(12):1632-9 (ABSTRACT)
A study conducted in the united states showed the rate for myopia in the country in 1971-1972 was 25.0%.
I didn't understand the right in the middle part. You either can go without glasses or you can't. So if life cannot function without glasses then you will be in the same boat as anyone with a prescription of -20.00 or -30.00 (Yes you can read answers given in this site and occasionally get numbers like that mentioned.)
The vast majority of people in your country don't even have a minus number in their prescription. So you're in the minority if classifying yourself in the overall picture.
'Anywhere from -1.00 to -2.50 is fairly minimal, but there are people who are -8.00 to -11.00 which you can imagine is terrible!'
Make your mind up...it either 'doesn't matter' (because vision can always be corrected by glasses) or its 'terrible'. Well you better have some spare cash if you're following the path of 'britter'. You will need to fork out some on expensive laser eye surgery. If her myopia relapses she will face the prospect of further surgery or the purchase of a new pair of glasses.
'So a -4.50 is kind of right in the middle (moderate). That is about what I was at as well at your age, at least before I got LASIK surgery.
I am assuming you are nearsighted like the example above (-4.50) because that is the most common. However, if you are actually farsighted (so your prescription is +4.50) then that is pretty bad. Plus prescriptions aren't as common and thus are worse in the +4.50 range.'
Depends whether the person values their near sight or far sight (to label either as more significant.) I doubt 'britter' values her near vision because with either glasses or laser eye surgery she will always push her pc monitor back or rest books on her lap to create sufficient reading distance (to see clearly). Her choices in life have had the long term effect of undermining her near vision.
'Either way, it doesn't really matter what your prescription is as long as your glasses or contact lenses allow you to see a perfect 20/20.'
Well if this is the case then what was the point in the rest of her answer (if none of it mattered)...
Maybe she isn't aware of medical risks associated with myopia:
Saw SM, Gazzard G, Shih-Yen EC, Chua WH. (2005) Myopia and associated pathological complications. Ophthalmic Physiol Opt. 25(5): 381-91
'Myopic patients have a greater incidence of cataract, with myopia of greater than 6.00 diopters having a greater risk of glaucoma, retinal detachments, chorioretinal atrophy and lacquer cracks. "There is a public health need to prevent the onset or progression of myopia.'
So it really doesn't matter what level your prescription is? Well if it was less than -1.00 then you'd be able to function in life with no restraints.
Buying glasses is not a free option. Some people spend $100s on their glasses each year. That would add up to a loss of 1000s of dollars in a lifetime. If that person takes the contact lens option that would be $20-$30 a month. That's $240-$360 a year and potentially $12000-$18000 during a lifetime (a 50 year period.)
There's the added inconvenience of being 100% dependent on glasses. Break or lose them and you will be virtually blind for 24 hours or more.
Sports may become an impossibility. Also those wearing glasses full time will have blurred vision whenever it rains. (Rain will hit the glasses, obscuring/blocking vision.)
It's also likely that people wearing glasses will develop an unsteady, rushed pace of thought. They learn to deal with any existence of hostility through ignorance and lack any ability to use peripheral vision. This flaw will allow them to be exposed and cause a lack of open awareness of the environment.
Peripheral vision is a basic requirement for the eyes' auto-focusing mechanism. If your peripheral vision is not there and not used then your vision will be unlikely to adjust 100% correctly to any defocus.
'Source(s):
I am an optometry intern.'
didnt help make your answer any more informative or insightful.
'If you are nearsighted (so your prescription is a -4.50 D), you are kind of right in the middle.'
Vitale S, Sperduto RD, Ferris FL 3rd. (2009) Increased prevalence of myopia in the United States between 1971-1972 and 1999-2004. Arch Ophthalmol. 2009 Dec;127(12):1632-9 (ABSTRACT)
A study conducted in the united states showed the rate for myopia in the country in 1971-1972 was 25.0%.
I didn't understand the right in the middle part. You either can go without glasses or you can't. So if life cannot function without glasses then you will be in the same boat as anyone with a prescription of -20.00 or -30.00 (Yes you can read answers given in this site and occasionally get numbers like that mentioned.)
The vast majority of people in your country don't even have a minus number in their prescription. So you're in the minority if classifying yourself in the overall picture.
'Anywhere from -1.00 to -2.50 is fairly minimal, but there are people who are -8.00 to -11.00 which you can imagine is terrible!'
Make your mind up...it either 'doesn't matter' (because vision can always be corrected by glasses) or its 'terrible'. Well you better have some spare cash if you're following the path of 'britter'. You will need to fork out some on expensive laser eye surgery. If her myopia relapses she will face the prospect of further surgery or the purchase of a new pair of glasses.
'So a -4.50 is kind of right in the middle (moderate). That is about what I was at as well at your age, at least before I got LASIK surgery.
I am assuming you are nearsighted like the example above (-4.50) because that is the most common. However, if you are actually farsighted (so your prescription is +4.50) then that is pretty bad. Plus prescriptions aren't as common and thus are worse in the +4.50 range.'
Depends whether the person values their near sight or far sight (to label either as more significant.) I doubt 'britter' values her near vision because with either glasses or laser eye surgery she will always push her pc monitor back or rest books on her lap to create sufficient reading distance (to see clearly). Her choices in life have had the long term effect of undermining her near vision.
'Either way, it doesn't really matter what your prescription is as long as your glasses or contact lenses allow you to see a perfect 20/20.'
Well if this is the case then what was the point in the rest of her answer (if none of it mattered)...
Maybe she isn't aware of medical risks associated with myopia:
Saw SM, Gazzard G, Shih-Yen EC, Chua WH. (2005) Myopia and associated pathological complications. Ophthalmic Physiol Opt. 25(5): 381-91
'Myopic patients have a greater incidence of cataract, with myopia of greater than 6.00 diopters having a greater risk of glaucoma, retinal detachments, chorioretinal atrophy and lacquer cracks. "There is a public health need to prevent the onset or progression of myopia.'
So it really doesn't matter what level your prescription is? Well if it was less than -1.00 then you'd be able to function in life with no restraints.
Buying glasses is not a free option. Some people spend $100s on their glasses each year. That would add up to a loss of 1000s of dollars in a lifetime. If that person takes the contact lens option that would be $20-$30 a month. That's $240-$360 a year and potentially $12000-$18000 during a lifetime (a 50 year period.)
There's the added inconvenience of being 100% dependent on glasses. Break or lose them and you will be virtually blind for 24 hours or more.
Sports may become an impossibility. Also those wearing glasses full time will have blurred vision whenever it rains. (Rain will hit the glasses, obscuring/blocking vision.)
It's also likely that people wearing glasses will develop an unsteady, rushed pace of thought. They learn to deal with any existence of hostility through ignorance and lack any ability to use peripheral vision. This flaw will allow them to be exposed and cause a lack of open awareness of the environment.
Peripheral vision is a basic requirement for the eyes' auto-focusing mechanism. If your peripheral vision is not there and not used then your vision will be unlikely to adjust 100% correctly to any defocus.
'Source(s):
I am an optometry intern.'
didnt help make your answer any more informative or insightful.
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